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Global Bob who is a cyber security expert and political science hobbyist brings you a show that fuses these topics together to explain in simple terms the interaction between the two. He uses his years of experience in both the government, commercial and private sector to give a unique perspective on these topics.
Global Bob Show
Episode 26 - Front-End Development in the Age of AI: Insights with Hello Chelly
The Global Bob Show returns after a two-year hiatus with new co-host Hello Chelly joining the crossroads of technology and politics podcast. Front-end developer Hello Chelly brings fresh expertise in AI and software development to complement Global Bob's technological insights.
• Front-end developers create everything users see on websites and apps including buttons, logins, and visual interfaces
• AI helps developers speed up coding by generating functions rather than writing everything manually
• Despite AI advancements, humans remain essential as someone must craft the right prompts and guide the technology
• Prompt engineering involves detailed instructions that describe exactly what you want AI to produce
• Global Bob recently spoke at a Chamber event educating businesses across industries about practical AI applications
• AI energy consumption debate: using computational power for AI development offers more societal value than cryptocurrency mining
• Upcoming series will teach AI prompting techniques to the central Florida community
Contact us at globalbobshow@gmail.com or through our website www.globalbobshow.com to send a message about keeping Hello Shelly as co-host or to suggest topics for future episodes.
all right, all right, here we go. It is that time of the season, I guess we should say, for the global bob show show. Global Bob show. We are the crossroads of technology and politics. Now, if y'all notice, whenever I opened the show, I said it's that time of the season for the global Bob show to all my avid listeners out there, from back in 2022, you know that was when the last show was. That was episode 25. And then life happens, right, and so, uh, given the uh changes and everything that's been going on, I had to uh temporarily suspend the global Bob show for a few years. But hey, we're back by popular demand. So here we go. All right, so the last show was September 20th 2022. And, yeah, so we have a new addition to the Global Bob show. Since then, I'll introduce you to Hello Shelly, is that how you say? Your handle, I'm Global Bob, you're Hello.
Speaker 1:Shelley. Yeah, hello, shelley, that's me.
Speaker 2:That's nice. So when people call into the Global Bob show, do they say hello, hello Shelley, or is it just a hello Shelley?
Speaker 1:Oh, it could be both Hello, hello Shelley or just hello Shelley it could be both Hello, hello Shelly or just hello Shelly.
Speaker 2:All right, so we got to get a few things straight first. Okay, this is my show, not the hello Shelly show. But uh, I feel like I need to give you a rank. You know, I mean the the theme of the show. I kind of had that I was your field commander and I think now I'm like up to a general or something like that so what? What rank would you like to come in as as the uh first co-host of the global bob show?
Speaker 1:I'll just be like cadet commander cadet, that's pretty good yeah.
Speaker 2:I like the uh.
Speaker 1:I like taking, I like being the cadet, okay, so, so I'm the green guy here.
Speaker 2:The green guy or girl.
Speaker 1:Girl Person. Okay, person Could be person this time, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's kind of cool because you're in the Global Bob boot camp of which you've been in the Global Bob boot camp. So what do you do? Where do you come from? What's your name, age, location Is that how we used to do it?
Speaker 1:back in the day. Asl.
Speaker 2:ASL. I like it, so tell us about. Hello, shelly.
Speaker 1:All right. So, born and raised in Florida, lived here my whole life. Haven't moved anywhere else. I am a front-end developer.
Speaker 2:Front-end developer.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:That's pretty cool. Why don't you tell the folks what a front-end developer actually does?
Speaker 1:So a front-end developer develops the front end of applications develops the front end of applications.
Speaker 2:Okay, so mom gets out her phone and she goes to wwwwherearethevarnerboyscom to track us down. Yes, what part of that would you be involved with with that website if you're a front-end developer?
Speaker 1:so everything that the user sees in front of them, so like that page, basically everything that they're seeing there, is what we develop so the front-end developer, uh, the buttons and yeah logins and stuff like that, that's really cool. That's really cool. It. That's really cool, it's very fun. Okay, and rewarding.
Speaker 2:Okay, so that's what you do during the day, but what do? You do when you clock out of, and who do you work for?
Speaker 1:A company that develops software for routers coupled with AI.
Speaker 2:Wow, that seems very oversimplified. I'm assuming I'm oversimplifying this, correct? Yes, of that fun stuff, uh, the. What your job is is to simplify the visualizations that the user is seeing and then, when they want to do something, it's just a click of the button. Is that kind of um?
Speaker 1:in a simplified way. Yes, okay yeah, there's a lot that goes to it, but yeah.
Speaker 2:so I mean, this ai revolution that we're in is kind of nuts. I mean, when the Global Bob Show went off the air, you know, back in 2022, it was just starting to you know, ai was there, but I felt like it was being used by highly technical folks. So, as a front end developer, what do you use AI for, like daily? I guess a lot of folks use AI and I'll give you a good story here my dad. He will claim to be like the master of AI, right, and he'll get his phone out and he will ask chat GPT, because he thinks that's the only AI and we know that there's a lot more other AI products out there but he'll say chat GPT, what is the length of the golden gate bridge?
Speaker 2:And and and he'll get something back. He's like so y'all use AI. I'm like dad. No, you're using like Google.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like a Google thing, right. And so what I like to ask folks, when they, you know, really know AI, is what do they use it for in their day to day job roles? So what do you use as a front end developer, now that we know what a front end developer? Is what does a front end developer? How do you use AI for your job?
Speaker 1:So, basically, it helps us speed up our coding process. So, instead of looking for a specific function, let's say we're trying to figure out how to write a function, and instead of just typing it all out, it will help us bring a whole function together that we can implement into the front end.
Speaker 2:Got it. And so for my non-software developer engineer folks out there, when you're developing software, functions is how you break your code up. And so what? Shelly, hello. Shelly is Hello, all right. Every time I say hello, shelly you. Shelly is Hello, all right, every time I say hello, shelly you got to say hello back, no, okay.
Speaker 2:So functions is how you organize specific tasks inside your code. So what you're describing is, instead of having to do all of this rudimentary work, AI helps you develop those out quicker, Right, Right Are you? Are you afraid that AI is going to uh eliminate your job?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Why, why is?
Speaker 1:that.
Speaker 2:I mean, if if AI is writing it, then why can't AI just write it? I mean, ai doesn't show up, uh, hungover. Ai doesn't show up hungover Not that Shelly shows up here. Hungover by the way. Hello Shelly, hello. So you're not afraid of that. I mean because AI can just write it all day long, right, all night long. So why is AI not going to take Hello Shelly's job?
Speaker 1:Because I strongly believe that someone still has to be behind the keyboard to ask those questions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with that somewhat. You know, involved with software development is actually describing to folks like you and other people how I want something done right, and to me, I think AI is going to need human interaction, and part of the problem is is that with AI, you have to develop out these prompts right, what? And if you can't describe it to a human, then how can you describe it better in text format? But hey, there we go. We're looking to get us a sound board, right? And? And instead of taking a shot or a drink every time a key word or definition said that we need to explain, maybe we'll have some kind of sound. So we learned what a front-end developer is, we learned how some AI can help with a front-end developer and now we learned a prompt right.
Speaker 1:I said prompt.
Speaker 2:So now I'm going to quiz you. Okay, what is a prompt exactly? And you got to explain it to, not to me, but explain prompting to your mom.
Speaker 1:Okay, so AI prompting. Ai prompting is basically I'm trying to think of the best way to describe it, but it's not like hey, hey, please give me a pink background. I'm just gonna use something basic, okay, uh, ai is gonna reply back and say, okay, here's a pink background, but it could have clouds in it. I mean, they ai will come up with anything, but it does have a pink background. So with these prompts, you really have to break it down to exactly like, really describe. Like hey, I would like a background that is four by six size, with blue clouds that have a gradient to them and a ocean with waves and a dolphin coming out of the wave. Are you tripping right now?
Speaker 2:No, but I mean, geez, we just talked about a pink background with dolphins and waves jumping out of an ocean. But no, what, what? What uh hello, shelly hello is describing is exactly what prompting is right. My dad's got one and only prompt. He asked it a question, it responds back and and that's it. But what michelle is uh, shell, sorry is describing are prompts that you have to feed into the AI. Now what she was describing was a picture's so many AIs coming out, llms and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2:You know, I upload it and I would ask for legal advice on the document. Right, is it written in favor of the tenant, or is it written in favor of the landlord, or is it written in favor of the landlord? And AI come back and say I'm not a lawyer, I do not give legal advice and all that fun disclaimer crap that they put in there. But if I generate a nice prompt and tell it exactly what I'm wanting to know about this document, then that's called prompt engineering. And so I, in the case of the document, I would say I know you're not a lawyer. I am the tenant in this document. I want to know what my tenant rights are. I would also like to know how can I get out of this contract early. I would also like to add favorable legal language in there as the tenant, to give me rights to terminate this document if it's not there.
Speaker 2:And then, you know, I basically with prompt engineering you're, you're kind of setting up a persona right Like who is the AI supposed to act as Right, and I think that's a very important thing. Uh, I glad, by the way and. I don't mean to crack on anybody that's only using AI to ask the questions and get back simple answers, but I like to explain to folks that there's so much more that AI can do Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:Let me step in here. Don't let Global Bob fool you. He knows a lot about AI.
Speaker 2:Allegedly.
Speaker 1:You were at a chamber event speaking about AI.
Speaker 2:That's correct. Yeah, I was at a chamber event I think it was just last week sometime which, by the way, was phenomenal. We decided to put together a four-part series. I didn't decide to put it together, the Chamber did, and I was so graciously invited to be a part of the series, and the first one we did was like an AI Q&A Is that what you'd call it? Yeah, yeah, it was great. There was a lot of folks there.
Speaker 2:I think it started like 9.30 on a Tuesday or Wednesday, whatever day it was, and that's 9.30 am Eastern Standard Time. Yeah, and I was really impressed by the questions that they were asking. I think it ran for like an hour and a half, which was great. I thought that I was going to walk in and within five or six minutes we were going to have to kind of prod the crowd there, but, man, the questions that were coming in were just phenomenal, and part of the reason why we were doing this series is that we want to educate people on AI and how to use AI in the workplace, just how you use AI in the workplace.
Speaker 2:But you're a front-end developer working for a company that develops software for routers that's coupled with AI, right, so we expect you to, of course, use AI in all of your business dealings and practices and stuff and, of course, I've told you how I use AI a lot of times on the legal front.
Speaker 2:But AI there's so much more that can be used for in every workplace and we had folks there from a paving company, we had folks there from a mental health company there or mental health nonprofit organization, and so they're interested in using AI. I mean, every swath of industry I felt like was represented there and there were some good questions that came up. Some of the ones I kind of felt like I was that clown at the fair and they're lobbing some softballs at me. It actually came up not only at that event, but another conversation I was having about AI is what about all the energy that AI uses? And if you guys remember the Bitcoin mining craze and it's still going on Bitcoin mining it needed these GPUs, right, right, and can you tell us what is a GPU? There's?
Speaker 1:another term.
Speaker 2:Ding, ding, ding. Can you tell us what? What is a GPU? There's another term.
Speaker 1:Ding, ding, ding ding.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:What's a GPU? A processing unit or graphical processing unit?
Speaker 2:Right and they were mostly used for like games and stuff, yeah, for gaming.
Speaker 1:Right, and so so like the bigger the better, Faster the faster. Yeah, the better the graphics of the game would be.
Speaker 2:Right. So you know, when you play video games, those things get very hot. Well, they also use graphics cards for Bitcoin mining. They use them for AI and we're not going to get into all the details, but basically it's used for the vectorization and things like that. Well, those things get extremely hot and they use a lot of power.
Speaker 2:And a couple questions came up is yeah, but aren't you worried about the power consumption of all of these massive AI data centers and stuff? And call it snarky or not, but when I get asked that question, I immediately talk about well, the Bitcoin market's doing pretty good, right, lots of billionaires have been made off of that, and now they have all these other altcoins that are being used. And I said so if I'm going to put electricity into a computer to do things, do I want it to mine a crypto token? That's only value is the energy that it wasted to be mined and speculation. Or would you like to put that into an AI engine? The same graphics card and we can go find a cure for cancer? And that usually kind of turns the tide of the conversation where oh, okay, I didn't. I didn't realize that and I can tell you that, um, I would be all for using it for ai. Now here's a uh little plug.
Speaker 2:I think I did mention uh in one podcast about bitcoin. I talked about it and stuff. So if y'all want to uh into that one, you can just go to globalbobshowcom, look through the episode list and you can see that or listen to that show. But I'm not a huge fan of Bitcoin. I like the idea of it. Simply state I say it's a, it's a lottery system with a Ponzi scheme and uh, that's, that's just my thoughts. So, but yeah, so I mean, if we can use all this stuff for the greater good, uh, I would rather spend my electricity on that.
Speaker 2:Uh, we do have another uh series, not another series, but a continuation of the series Uh, and we're actually going to teach prompting. So if anybody it's in the central Florida area or if you would like to fly down here I'm not going to pay for you to fly down here, but if you would like to come join us and see a real positive impact to the community of uh education around AI, then, uh, reach out. Uh global Bob show at gmailcom and we'll make sure to give you those dates and times. All right, all right. Here we are at the bottom of the half hour. That means the show is almost over. Today's music was uh some music that uh hello shelly found that is uh russian folk music.
Speaker 2:I guess I told her to find some music that was in the public domain, which means you can use it all right. So, uh, shelly will join us on the show from time to time as a co-host. Shelly, is this your first podcast? Yes, my dear. So here we are at the Richard Lowell Clark Broadcast Facility, behind the silver microphone for me and the black microphone for you, and we can go out and talk to the world. It's just amazing technology. We'll probably talk about that too, you know, in later shows, because the fact that everybody has these cell phones in their pockets and can podcast and stream live, it's a really amazing world.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, so if y'all want to keep Shelly on the show, can someone please send me at least one comment to Global Bob Show? You can do that at globalbobshow at gmailcom, or we do have a new feature where you can go to wwwglobalbobshowcom and send us a text message. Right, if you go to the show, you should be able to click on an episode or somewhere on the page and send us a text message and see if we want to keep Hello Shelly on the Global Bob Show. We're always looking for people that like to come on the show, so if there's anything that you think may be of interest to the listeners, then reach out to us. Also, love to have you as a co-host also. All right, everybody, until next time next week.
Speaker 1:Everybody be safe and we'll see you on the highways and byways of cyberspace.