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Global Bob who is a cyber security expert and political science hobbyist brings you a show that fuses these topics together to explain in simple terms the interaction between the two. He uses his years of experience in both the government, commercial and private sector to give a unique perspective on these topics.
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Episode 29 - Space Race 2.0: How Starlink and StarShield Are Changing The Game
Ever wondered what happens when a tech titan like Elon Musk sets his sights on revolutionizing global communications? Buckle up as we dive deep into the fascinating world of Starlink—SpaceX's ambitious satellite network that's changing the game for internet connectivity and military operations worldwide.
We break down how these remarkable low Earth orbit satellites are transforming global communications, with approximately 6,000 satellites already in orbit and plans for an astonishing 42,000. From covering 99% of the world's population to launching a rocket every four days with 60 flat-packed satellites, the scale and efficiency of this operation is unprecedented.
But there's more beneath the surface. We explore StarShield, the classified satellite program designed specifically for the U.S. military that carries mysterious "other payloads" for reconnaissance missions. What exactly can these satellites see and hear from just 340 miles above Earth? When Ukraine deployed commercial Starlink terminals during conflict, it demonstrated just how powerful this technology can be on the battlefield—so powerful that adversaries attempted to disable them with EMP attacks.
The conversation touches on everything from the remarkable AI collision avoidance systems keeping thousands of satellites from crashing into each other to the new commercial space race emerging between SpaceX, Blue Origin, and Chinese competitors. We even dig into T-Mobile's partnership with Starlink that allows standard smartphones to connect directly to satellites without special equipment—a capability that hints at the true potential of this technology.
Whether you're a space enthusiast, tech follower, or simply curious about how satellite technology intersects with global politics, this episode delivers fascinating insights into the present and future of space-based communications. Give it a listen and share your thoughts on this incredible technological revolution happening right over our heads.
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Speaker 2:Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on. You had that part right. It's the Global Bob show. I was very straightforward with you when we started that it's my show, not the Hello Shelly show. Also, what we talked about was that you've got to be on here for five shows before you become an official co-host, because right now you're not even an official co-host. Okay.
Speaker 1:Oh dang.
Speaker 2:You're more like a tag-along, right, is that okay?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I want to take over the show.
Speaker 2:I'm doing it, Okay so if the listeners out there want to have Shelly take over the show, please send your email to asdf at globalbobshowcn. I'm just kidding. That's not even a real email address. So yeah, if y'all want to send it there, then that's fine, it's okay, bobby, you can have the show.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, all right, here we go. It is that time of the week for the Global Bob Show. Global Bob Show we are the crossroad of technology and politics. We got a real good one here for you this week. We're going to be talking about mainly about Starlink and some of the things that come around.
Speaker 1:Starlink Bobby, you've had a really crazy day today. You need to settle down some.
Speaker 2:And what makes you think? That my day has been crazy so far.
Speaker 1:Let's see, you came in late. The car was having issues. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:Everybody. Please do not get me started with a car. I know that from all outward appearances that y'all probably think I'm the most high-tech person in the world, but those that know me very well will know that I just play a high-tech person during the day. When the show is not going on and I'm not in my business capacity, then I'm very low tech.
Speaker 1:And today is very true. Today is no different.
Speaker 2:I go out to get in my automobile and I needed to pick up my little nephew and bring him to school. Now, those that know Global Bob, and where the old ranch or Ponderosa, or farm or whatever word you want to use for my primary domicile is out in the middle of the green swamp, so you know I do a lot of cowboy type stuff.
Speaker 2:Well, I go, get in the car, run a little late, throw the car seat in there and text my little nephew's mother and tell her I'm rolling your way. It's usually the way I, you know, communicate you know rolling your way, rolling to the swamp or whatever.
Speaker 2:And my car has all these lights. I mean, it's got so many lights lit up on the dashboard you would have swore that it was a pinball machine or something. Lights lit up on the dashboard, you would have swore that it was a pinball machine or something. Now, for my younger listeners that don't know what a pinball machine is, it is a very piece of low tech but highly complicated devices Pinball machines. Without getting on a side tangent, maybe we should do something like a show around the evolution of games and stuff.
Speaker 2:But, the pinball machine was all electrical like switches, right, no computers or anything. So back to my car. It's lit up like a pinball machine and I go to put the car in reverse and the car will not move. And more lights decided to light up on the automobile and it said something about an emergency brake, see owner's manual. Of course, me being a dude, I'm like I don't need an owner's manual for anything. So I pushed the parking brake button. Notice I didn't say I pull the parking brake because, or kick the parking brake because this automobile has technology in it. You just push a button so I turn the parking brake on, I turn the parking brake off, almost like doing the hokey pokey here and nothing happens, car won't move.
Speaker 2:it is locked. So, being in my high-tech role, I'm like, oh, let's just reset the car. So I get out of the car, close the door and I wait about three minutes and I start this process over again. The same light pattern is on the dash. Car won't move, All that fun stuff.
Speaker 1:So I go down pick up my little nephew and bring him down Now, the way I got down to his house, which is only about a mile down the road, if that was I got in my F-250 diesel truck Grr, grr, yeah, grr, that's my cowboy car, as some people call it.
Speaker 2:I go and I pick his little butt up, bring him back, and I'm having to explain to a six-year-old here of how I'm very frustrated with the car and we need to fix the car Now. Mind you, whenever I'm in the heat of the moment, I do say a few cuss words from time to time. I have been known to use cuss words that shouldn't even go together and I'm explaining to him that everything that's wrong with these high-tech cars and anyway. So I pull in, we try the thing again. I throw his car seat in my cowboy car and I proceed to work. On my way to work, I find out that there's a meeting that I'm supposed to attend that I thought was going to happen an hour after the fact, but anyways, it was running an hour early. So I do the flight of the bumblebee, drop him off did not break any laws or speed limits, I promise. And then I get to the meeting and the meeting happens.
Speaker 1:I Y'all know how I am I don't like things unresolved, so then I have to go back to the house and attempt to try to get the car to move.
Speaker 2:So I've got the car to move, Then I need to take it to the dealership, right? And so I'm on my way to the dealership and I don't know why we have so many podcasts. We can do about this, but you would think in this day and age that folks know how to use roundabouts. Now there's roundabout not too far from my house. I go through it every single day and apparently even professional truckers don't know how to use roundabouts. But I understand, right. I got friends in the tech industry that don't have antivirus.
Speaker 2:So I understand, okay, so yeah, my day has just been one of those days, and so here I am. But, yes, I think we should do something about the evolution of entertainment. I wouldn't say video games, but really you know pinball machines and really these low tech but complicated machinery you know that used to be around. I think that would be good. And then I really, I really would like can you see if you could get Elon on the podcast? I want to ask him. I need to ask him before I go buy a Tesla.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because all of y'all know I absolutely hate to drive, and so I've told everybody that as soon as the Tesla cyber cab comes out, I will wait in line. I will be one of those guys that are sleeping in a sleeping bag the first one at the Tesla place. But I got one question for Elon what in the hell is the emergency procedure to get the emergency brake off if this happens in a Tesla?
Speaker 2:So I'm talking to one of the folks at the office and they informed me that all I needed to do was plug into my car with some kind of ODBC connection or something. I don't know what he was saying and I can do it that way, but I don't know. I need to find out before I buy one of these cyber cabs. How in the hell do you get the emergency brake off?
Speaker 1:Yeah, these cars are getting smarter every day. They are, they are, and I think those could be how the hell do you get the emergency brake off?
Speaker 2:So anyway, these cars are getting smarter every day. They are, they are, and I think those could be exploitation platforms, so I digress. Now that y'all know how my day started. Let's get the podcast started. So what are? We talking about today, Shelly.
Speaker 1:Bring us in. So we're talking about Starlink and satellites.
Speaker 2:Like the other.
Speaker 1:LEO satellites oh, that are up there with amazon starling yeah, so what do you know about them?
Speaker 2:what do you want to talk about?
Speaker 1:well, first before we get into the podcast, I noticed you're wearing a cowboy hat today the cow, the cowboy hat, what's that?
Speaker 2:well, I kind of think of the cowboy hat as kind of something that keeps me calm, and plus I was driving my cowboy car, so I might as well wear my cowboy hat, because if not I would lose all credibility, I guess. So here I am, I'm wearing my tennis shoes, my blue jeans and a cowboy hat, so maybe that's how I'm going to manifest myself into the old keyboard cowboy.
Speaker 1:Tech Titan cowboy, tech Titan cowboy, tech Titan cowboy, oh my gosh, okay, enough of that.
Speaker 2:So we have this Starlink going on. What else? What else? I mean talk to us.
Speaker 1:So for our listeners out there, what is Starlink? We'll go into that. Yeah, what is?
Speaker 2:Starlink. We'll go into that. Yeah, so Starlink is. Y'all know I'm a huge fanboy when it comes to Elon and SpaceX. I think everything he's doing is just amazing. It is, and no matter what side of the aisle you're on or what side of the aisle Elon's on, because you know he was a super pro-Trumper there. And now there's a little squabble going on.
Speaker 2:So Daddy and Bubby seem to be arguing, but he's done some really great things for humanity, and Starlink is a wonderful technology that uses low-Earth-orbit satellites. Wow, I just sorry about that. I was drinking some of my sweet tea here. Low-earth-orbit satellites and they are flying around. I just sorry about that. I was drinking some of my sweet tea here. Low Earth Orbit Satellites and they are flying around you know, about 340 miles out in space and they have really revolutionized. They can hit a lot of people don't know this, they can hit 99% of the world's population.
Speaker 1:That's amazing.
Speaker 2:Now, just because they can hit it doesn't mean that you can actually use your Starlink in those locations, because each individual country, like we've talked about before, has their own rules and regulations. But guess what? Guess who doesn't have any rules or regulations per se? That we saw displayed not too long ago the US government, not too long ago, the US government. I mean, was that not amazing technology when they took off out of Whitman Air Force Base and flew those B-2 bombers?
Speaker 2:all the way to Iran, dropped those bombs down the air shaft, like everything that we've seen in the movies and, by the way, I think Top Gun 2 got it right. Remember they had to, like, drop one bomb to penetrate?
Speaker 1:I haven't seen it, oh my gosh. Okay, well, I'm not going to give away the ending, where what really happens.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I mean that that is amazing. But so back to the Starlink is the US government. They pretty much do what they want to do when they want to do it Now.
Speaker 2:I know that there's rules and regulations Me, being someone that worked for the government, totally understands all of that. But I mean, think about this Now with Starlink, the government can have communications from pole to pole and from anywhere in the world using Uncle Elon's technology. And they actually have a project that just came out and I was reading about it a couple weeks ago called StarShield. Have you heard of StarShield?
Speaker 1:No, I haven't. What's that about?
Speaker 2:So StarShield is a classified satellite program designed by SpaceX for the US military.
Speaker 2:And, from what I found online, just like most of these classified government programs, you're not supposed to know about them and I didn't find these out on WikiLeaks or anything. I mean, this is just stuff that's out in the news, but they're built specifically for national security. And I find that interesting because if someone says it's built for national security, you're like, oh my gosh, you know there's a lot of things that it can do. And when we talked about Starlink before, we talked about global communications, which is part of it, but with these star shields out there, they have listed on their site that it can carry with air quotes I know y'all can't see us here in the studio, but other payloads and whenever I think about other payloads, I'm like, oh my gosh. I mean that could be everything from scientific experiments to some kind of I don't know, maybe they have little ball bearings in there and they can drop them on people's houses.
Speaker 1:Like I don't know.
Speaker 2:So, digging a little deeper into StarShield, they say that some of these payloads can be used for reconnaissance missions.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, and you know it's been a lot of science fiction and we've seen some of the science fiction turn into science facts, that of what reconnaissance payloads consist of. And you know, we've all seen where they say they can read a pack of cigarettes from you know up and outer space via satellite. Now whether that's true or not I don't know, but the fact that they use the term cigarettes I don't even know. Anybody even smokes cigarettes anymore. But yeah, so they say they can read license plates. So when we think of reconnaissance and satellites, a lot of folks talk about visual reconnaissance, which this is reading license plate tags, looking at people's faces and things. But there's another type of reconnaissance the world that I came in back whenever I worked for the US government and that is signals intelligence or SIGINT, which is a type of reconnaissance that it can either be active, which means you can go out and break into a computer system and get the information off of it, or it can be passive, which means the information flows across the network and they suck up the stuff.
Speaker 2:So the fact they say they can do reconnaissance with these and I think, wow, if you're covering 99% of the world and these are only at 340 miles out in space. Think about that as the satellite flies over China or Russia. That's only 340 miles away.
Speaker 2:And when some people think that, wow, 340 miles away, that's pretty far, but really when you're dealing with radios that's not far whatsoever. And one of the folks I was talking to said yeah, you know, I understand that these Starlink satellites can carry signals, intelligence, reconnaissance, but I mean, really, what can they do with it from 340 miles away? And what I like to point to is T-Mobile. T-mobile now has a partnership with Starlink to deliver text messages right now it's text to a standard iPhone.
Speaker 2:Now a text message is bidirectional communications. That means my phone talks to the satellite, the satellite talks to the earth and it goes back and forth. Now, if they can, get a message back and forth to my cell phone that's reaching 340 miles with no special antennas.
Speaker 2:I mean it's amazing. Yeah, I still have a satellite phone that I still use and it's by Inmarsat. And this thing Now totally different technology. We've talked about it in previous podcasts. It's got a big antenna. It previous podcast, it's got a big antenna. And when you use the EnmarSat phone you better tell everybody you're using an EnmarSat, because it's big, it's clunky and the antenna almost looks like a pistol.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay and this big thing, but somehow Elon and the boys are able to take my iPhone. That's unmodified, no clunky antenna, and it will connect up to Starlink and I can send messages. So what I'm saying is that the fact that they can do that, imagine if they have a specific reconnaissance payload on the Starlink. That's part of the StarShield program, which, by the way, you know how I am with program terms, that's a pretty good name, huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah. No that's really amazing Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So that's the part of the problem that the Chinamen are having issues with that these satellites that are flying over and, by the way, right now they have approximately 6,000 satellites up in space. They have plans for 42,000 satellites up in space, 42,000. And so that's the problem these countries are having. They're saying, hey, you're basically flying all these little satellites over and it's under the guise of to provide communications, but they have stated that they can use these for reconnaissance. Now, if you can get an active connection to a cell phone, then you can also probably get active connections from the satellite to go break into networks as they fly over. So it's just a lot of questions that people are asking around this phenomenal technology.
Speaker 1:And the Falcon 9, the rocket they used to launch the satellites.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not a rocketeer. Why don't you tell me something about that?
Speaker 1:Oh so the Falcon 9 rocket is known for its reusability and ability to launch satellites and astronauts into orbit.
Speaker 2:So those rockets, can do both, so it's like a multi-use rocket.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's very interesting that you say that, because before NASA would do these classified missions us living here in Central Florida and my mom oh my God, mom, she will set her alarm clock to get up in the middle of the night, whether it's 2.30 in the morning, whatever time it is to go out there. She loves these things and she loves watching them blast off. But there's been times when my mom has called me up and said baby, I think they launched off one of their rockets last night and I didn't know anything about it and I'm like mama that's probably a classified mission.
Speaker 2:They probably didn't want you to know anything about it. And I'm like Mama, that's probably a classified mission. They probably didn't want you to know anything about it, but you know how parents are they got a Super cute.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know Probably Elon's mom's calling him hey baby, why didn't you tell me that you're launching a rocket? But the fact that you said that they're a multi-use, dual-use technology, that's very interesting, because now a falcon 9 is sitting on the launch pad and you don't know, or we don't know, the adversary doesn't know is that a rocket that's carrying the star shield, star links? Is it carrying astronauts? Now, most of the time, so I think that they tell us that there's an astronaut on there, but still, I mean, if there's an astronaut on there, but still I mean if there's not astronauts on there and they could say it's a Starlink, but it could have anything on there.
Speaker 2:So that's kind of cool, it's almost like the psychological show where they tell you to watch the ball that's being dribbled and count the number of times, and then the elephant sneaks across or the monkey sneaks across and you don't see it until they replay it.
Speaker 1:You know you get so focused.
Speaker 2:So it makes you wonder. But one of the interesting facts is that I didn't realize on average, and I don't think this is all out of Florida, because, because they do, they got Starbase and they got.
Speaker 1:Texas. I think that's the Starbases in Texas, right yeah?
Speaker 2:And then they have something out in California which they should get everything out of California after their governor there. But do you know? They launch on average a rocket every four days.
Speaker 2:That's awesome when you were little and they had the space shuttle I remember that was a big deal, yeah and they damn sure didn't launch one every four days. I mean we're gonna shoot work well, maybe a couple times a year, yeah, yeah and so, with one going up on average every four days, I mean that's, that's quite a bit going up and it's like you know, hey, this one's got star links and this one's got the star shield. Just don't, just don't tell anybody about it.
Speaker 1:So the cool thing is they carry up to 60 satellites per launch so how do they get them all in there?
Speaker 2:I mean, I mean, I know me, I have a hard time carrying a laptop and an iPad in my truck or car. I mean, how the hell are they getting 60 of these things in there?
Speaker 1:So they have this flat stack deployment. The satellites are flat packed, without individual dispensers to maximize volume.
Speaker 2:Wait a second. Say that again. They're placed in there like pancakes.
Speaker 1:Okay, but no. Say the whole thing over again. The satellites Wait a second.
Speaker 2:Say that they're placed in there like pancakes, okay, but no, say the whole thing over again.
Speaker 1:The satellites.
Speaker 2:They're in a flat, they're flat packed. Flat packed Like a pancake. Okay, flat packed.
Speaker 1:Flat Packed, without individual dispensers, to maximize volume.
Speaker 2:Do you know the real reason why they're set up like that? And it's a non-technological reason. It's because the more of those satellites that they can flat pack, old Uncle Elon gets to put a bigger and bigger fat stack in his pocket.
Speaker 1:That makes sense.
Speaker 2:Hey, and you know what you're pulling out there. Shelley is showing us just how efficient commercial technology is.
Speaker 1:And nothing bad against NASA.
Speaker 2:And I heard that Duffy now is going to be running NASA, which I think he's a heck of a good guy.
Speaker 1:Sean.
Speaker 2:Duffy. But you know, back in the day, I remember they would launch a satellite. Remember that, the government yeah, and a non-reusable rocket. I remember they would launch a satellite, remember that the government yeah. In a non-reusable rocket. They're going to launch a satellite. Okay, let's blast this thing off. Here's Elon.
Speaker 1:He's putting how many of these things in there?
Speaker 2:60 satellites per launch 60 satellites per launch and he's launching four a day. Yeah, that's a lot, and he's launching four a day, yeah that's a lot so just like with other classified projects, the information that makes its way out, unless you're that scumbag, snowden, which I need to do a whole podcast on that piece of crap.
Speaker 1:You'd be a good one to talk about. That would be a good one. If anybody knows where he's at, please let us know.
Speaker 2:Yeah please let us know. I'd like to Edward Snowden. If you're listening to this, please call into the show immediately.
Speaker 2:Yes, I have a few words to speak to you about, anyways. Do you know that it's almost a $1.8 billion is just what the government pays Elon, is just what the government pays Elon, and I'm sure that number is probably way low because they're not going to tell you. You know these black budgets and stuff like that, but that's pretty interesting and that's neat to think about. You know, we say that we are the crossroad of technology and politics.
Speaker 2:And to me that's really what this is. Is that the fact that the US government is launching these one satellites up there Matter of fact? Some of the times they don't even get them right. And here's Uncle Elon putting four of these things up, 60 of them packed in there, and that just shows you how much more efficient that commercial operations can operate. And we know that it's in conjunction with the US government. Wow, shelly, you're just full of facts. What other factoids do you have there?
Speaker 1:Another cool thing that I learned about was that the Starlink satellites use an AI-based collision avoidance with US Space Force tracking data.
Speaker 2:Wow, you know one of the other things too. Like I said, coming into town today was a truck that flipped over in the roundabout. So we got commercial truck drivers and even people. Okay, not picking on commercial truck drivers, because they do a heck of a job and there's no way that we can run without them, but they can't even get around a roundabout. Maybe we need some AI collision avoidance in those. But here's Elon and boys, the SpaceX women and men. They have AI-enabled collision avoidance for a satellite that's zooming around at thousands of miles.
Speaker 1:An hour With thousands of them out there. Yeah, thousands of them out there. They don't hit each other. When's the last?
Speaker 2:time you heard of something getting hit out there.
Speaker 1:I don't think I have heard anything, to be honest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's really neat there. I don't think I haven't heard anything, to be honest. What's really cool, too, is that Starlink. As far as I know, the first time that was used was in the war in the Ukraine. Oh wow, they didn't use the military version, they didn't use the Starshield version, they just used regular old gen pop Starlink satellites. They were running encrypted communications across it in the field. That's cool. They were hooking their drones up to it to fly their drones around, wow, and it was enough that.
Speaker 1:Vladimir did not.
Speaker 2:That's the worst Russian accent I've ever done, by the way, actually, he didn't like that too much and there were some EMPs that he tried to do to disable these star links and I haven't researched a lot but from what I understand that there is EMP technology in there and for those that don't know or don't remember what an EMP is. It's an electromagnetic pulse, and what that means is that it's a bolt of energy that fries circuit boards, and some of these can occur naturally, and so, when the sun is throwing off these solar flares that us ham radio people absolutely love because it charges.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it charges up the ionosphere but with the starlink they actually have little shields on the ones flying around to protect themselves against EMPs.
Speaker 2:And so I think that's really neat that they were using just commercial off-the-shelf what we call COTS, commercial off-the-shelf Starlinks, and they were running a whole war against one of the. At the time everybody thought how great the Russians are which we've seen time and time again that they can't even get their stuff working half the time. But imagine what Star Shield would do with the more advanced technology in there. Since we're talking about some of the detractors of Starlink, we should probably talk about people. Not everybody likes it you know and it doesn't have anything to do.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised the environmentalists haven't jumped on this. They seem to jump on everything. But maybe there's not an environment up in space, which I guess there is one.
Speaker 2:But for whatever reason, I haven't heard too much about the environmentalists, but there is space debris and the Chinese have complained about this and what I understand is is that even when Starlink is completely deployed, the chances of a manned rocket ship hitting a Starlink satellite would be the same as you placing a quarter on the floor. You're standing on a chair and falling face first and your nose hitting that quarter, the chances of them hitting that. So I think that, while some say that that's a detractor, you know the space debris because oh my God, what if?
Speaker 2:one of these manned space flights hit it. Well, okay, the odds are probably in your favor to get hurt on the way to the launch pad than getting hurt by one of these satellites. Another one is that, the launches being as frequent as they are and them being you know, at one time NASA was out in the middle of nowhere. Now it's prime real estate all around there and they seem to launch them off all hours of the night and morning.
Speaker 2:And so some people say well, you know, it's disturbing the peace. And I even had one of my friends say you know, if I play my loud music then I get a ticket. But how come they can launch off rockets in the middle of the night and wake up half of Florida? I'm like, okay, not the same buddy.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly, you know, but when it's tied to national, security.
Speaker 2:It's like, okay, who are you going?
Speaker 1:to call yeah.
Speaker 2:Call up, call up DT Donald Trump and complain about him and see what he says yeah, so yeah, you know the noise, the frequency of launches, the space debris. Then there's folks that talk about the visibility in the night sky. Now, you're a space nerd and you like telescopes, oh yeah, and if anything, you've told me that you would like to see one of the Starlinks come over and look at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it would be really neat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they call that the old Starlink train and so when these things are launched, these 60 satellites, as you told me, they actually go into a train-type configuration and you can see this whole train streaking across.
Speaker 2:But I guess astronomers get a little mad that their film has a Starlink train going across, but still I haven't heard of anything that people have told me that I'm like oh wow, that's bad, maybe we should look into this. And so, just like with a lot of things, especially around military and government, it's all about is it good for humanity? Is the juice worth the squeeze? And you know, not saying I'm on either side of it, but I haven't heard anything so far about the physical satellites being up in space or their launches. That would make me say you know, really we should look into that. But one of the things I did hear and I do understand this, is the monopoly that SpaceX has, and to me it is. You know, when you invent things.
Speaker 2:I have patents. You are going to be on some of the patents there, some of the work that you've done, but that's what it's all about, right? I mean, you have invented something that nobody else has and you haven't but a monopoly, just like a zero-day exploit. You know, at some point in time, that zero-day is going to be null and at some point in time, that zero day is going to be null and at some point in time, even McDonald's has competition Starbucks has competition, and so the monopolistic argument to this?
Speaker 2:I don't really think here's a cowboy. Term really doesn't hold water Because you've got folks like Bezos, who has had some issues both with his rocket Not that I'm comparing Elon's rocket to Bezos' rocket, but the rocket men there I think actually I know that Elon's further ahead, but he's launching his own stuff. His rocket ship is Blue Origin, and I think his Starlink product is called OneWeb. And also, too, the Chinese have launched their own stuff, and so everybody's getting into this whole low Earth orbit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like the new satellite space race. Yeah, like a satellite space race.
Speaker 2:And, just like with GPS back in the day, matter of fact, we call it GPS, which that is, a type of positioning system, but there's different GPSs now, and so some of the GPSs that I've purchased for my hiking and stuff it talks about that. It's like, you know, triple technology and stuff, so yeah, so I really don't think that detractors hold water, but you know what, just like it was time for episode 29 to start, we're at the bottom of the hour and we hope that everybody got a little something out of this and please keep the suggestions coming.
Speaker 2:If you like what you hear on the show, then please share the show.
Speaker 1:I'm very happy that Shelley has made it through her fourth show and you've got one more to go Show number five and it will be online.
Speaker 2:No, you don't realize. The co-host gets paid nothing. They have to bring me my sweet tea. They have to. You know there's a lot of stuff that's okay. And also, before that, you have to sign this paperwork. I have saying that you've got to non-compete for 99 years in all podcasts. Awesome, All right. Well, we really appreciate everybody tuning in and the best way to say thank you to us is share the show. If you liked the show, share it. If you didn't like the show, share the show and we will be back next week and we got a really, really good one for next week. Just want to tease that out a little bit and I hope everybody stays safe, stays well, and I'll keep you updated on my car clothes and, like I said, all around smart cars and just how damn dumb they are. All right, Until next time.